{"id":46283,"date":"2023-04-20T17:15:19","date_gmt":"2023-04-20T16:15:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ket.brussels\/?p=46283"},"modified":"2023-04-20T17:29:24","modified_gmt":"2023-04-20T16:29:24","slug":"baleine-sous-caillou-podcast-by-asma-el-guezouli","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ket.brussels\/fr\/2023\/04\/20\/baleine-sous-caillou-podcast-by-asma-el-guezouli\/","title":{"rendered":"Podcast de Baleine Sous Caillou par Asma El Guezouli"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/asmaelgz\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Asma El Guezouli<\/a> est le co-cr\u00e9ateur de \"<a href=\"https:\/\/podcast.ausha.co\/baleine-sous-caillou-podcast\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Baleine Sous Caillou<\/a>\"Mais ce n'est pas tout. Son \"<a href=\"https:\/\/podcast.ausha.co\/baleine-sous-caillou-podcast\/playlist\/balader-sonore-queer-baleine-sous-caillou\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Balades Sonores<\/a>\"sur le Queer Brussels sont extraordinaires et vous pouvez la voir sur <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/radio_vacarme\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Radio Vacarme<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Parlez-nous un peu de vous. Quel a \u00e9t\u00e9 votre parcours ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Je suis n\u00e9e \u00e0 Bruxelles, o\u00f9 j'ai grandi et o\u00f9 je vis depuis maintenant 31 ans. Fille d'une m\u00e8re originaire de Charleroi et d'un p\u00e8re marocain, petite-fille de ma grand-m\u00e8re flamande, je suis un beau patchwork de cultures et d'origines diff\u00e9rentes qui, je pense, repr\u00e9sente bien la diversit\u00e9 bruxelloise. Je me d\u00e9finis comme une femme queer cisgenre. Mes passions sont le chocolat noir, le th\u00e9, les mots, les voyages, mon podcast, la musique (et mon chat).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Je pense qu'en tant que personne queer, j'ai \u00e9t\u00e9 amen\u00e9e tr\u00e8s t\u00f4t \u00e0 remettre en question les normes de la soci\u00e9t\u00e9, m\u00eame inconsciemment. Les questions de sexualit\u00e9 et de genre ont rapidement attir\u00e9 mon attention et c'est au cours de mes \u00e9tudes de communication \u00e0 l'IHECS que les pr\u00e9misses de ma carri\u00e8re se sont dessin\u00e9es. D'une part, j'ai fait connaissance avec le m\u00e9dia radio et appris la technique et d'autre part, j'ai dirig\u00e9 mon m\u00e9moire sur la question de la repr\u00e9sentation du genre dans la production m\u00e9diatique en prenant comme sujet d'\u00e9tude le cas de Laverne Cox dans Orange is the New Black. Passionnant !<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Aujourd'hui, apr\u00e8s avoir travaill\u00e9 dans plusieurs secteurs, je m\u00e8ne une double vie. Je suis charg\u00e9e de mission \u00e9galit\u00e9 des chances et droits des femmes \u00e0 la commune de Saint-Gilles la journ\u00e9e et podcasteur le soir et les week-ends. J'ai co-cr\u00e9\u00e9 le projet de podcast Baleine Sous Caillou en 2019 avec une amie et c'est incroyable de voir o\u00f9 nous en sommes aujourd'hui, \u00e0 force de travail, de pers\u00e9v\u00e9rance, de sacrifices aussi, et surtout l'envie in\u00e9puisable de faire entendre nos voix, mais aussi celles de nos amis. C'est un projet qui a beaucoup \u00e9volu\u00e9, avec lequel nous nous sommes amus\u00e9s et avons pu vivre des exp\u00e9riences que nous n'aurions jamais eues si ce projet n'avait pas exist\u00e9.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-gallery has-nested-images columns-default is-cropped wp-block-gallery-1 is-layout-flex wp-block-gallery-is-layout-flex\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"400\" height=\"400\" data-id=\"46289\" src=\"https:\/\/ket.brussels\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/xj9gBimUI1mmQiZu7bg9Q4xWg8vIAnIRoYT5HwH4_400x400.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-46289\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ket.brussels\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/xj9gBimUI1mmQiZu7bg9Q4xWg8vIAnIRoYT5HwH4_400x400.jpeg 400w, https:\/\/ket.brussels\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/xj9gBimUI1mmQiZu7bg9Q4xWg8vIAnIRoYT5HwH4_400x400-300x300.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/ket.brussels\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/xj9gBimUI1mmQiZu7bg9Q4xWg8vIAnIRoYT5HwH4_400x400-150x150.jpeg 150w, https:\/\/ket.brussels\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/xj9gBimUI1mmQiZu7bg9Q4xWg8vIAnIRoYT5HwH4_400x400-12x12.jpeg 12w, https:\/\/ket.brussels\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/xj9gBimUI1mmQiZu7bg9Q4xWg8vIAnIRoYT5HwH4_400x400-50x50.jpeg 50w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"400\" height=\"400\" data-id=\"46290\" src=\"https:\/\/ket.brussels\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/Jf5mV5ULlzrDvyTLbeRr4mH4COhz5cc174Pya90P_400x400.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-46290\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ket.brussels\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/Jf5mV5ULlzrDvyTLbeRr4mH4COhz5cc174Pya90P_400x400.jpeg 400w, https:\/\/ket.brussels\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/Jf5mV5ULlzrDvyTLbeRr4mH4COhz5cc174Pya90P_400x400-300x300.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/ket.brussels\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/Jf5mV5ULlzrDvyTLbeRr4mH4COhz5cc174Pya90P_400x400-150x150.jpeg 150w, https:\/\/ket.brussels\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/Jf5mV5ULlzrDvyTLbeRr4mH4COhz5cc174Pya90P_400x400-12x12.jpeg 12w, https:\/\/ket.brussels\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/Jf5mV5ULlzrDvyTLbeRr4mH4COhz5cc174Pya90P_400x400-50x50.jpeg 50w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Quels sont vos projets actuels ou futurs ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">En ce moment, vous pouvez d\u00e9couvrir notre balade sonore qui vous emm\u00e8ne \u00e0 travers des histoires de vie, des anecdotes, des lieux mais surtout des personnalit\u00e9s embl\u00e9matiques et diverses de la communaut\u00e9 queer bruxelloise. Notre objectif est de montrer que les personnes LGBTQIA+ sont partout et que leurs histoires sont multiples. Pendant 1h30, vous passerez par le cin\u00e9ma Nova, le Cabaret Mademoiselle, le bar The Agenda, mais aussi la librairie Tulitu, l'H\u00f4tel de Ville ou le Mont-des Arts.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Nous travaillons \u00e9galement sur une soir\u00e9e au Recyclart pour laquelle nous avons carte blanche. Nous organisons une conf\u00e9rence d'une heure avec le collectif Fatsabatts, l'association Fat friendly et Victoria Piya. Puis nous poursuivons la soir\u00e9e sur le dancefloor avec le duo NotOkCupid et terminons avec Laura a.k.a L4U. Le tout se d\u00e9roulera le vendredi 21 avril de 20h \u00e0 0h30, on a h\u00e2te !<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Nous continuons \u00e0 diffuser nos interviews mensuelles sur Radio Vacarme, nos \u00e9pisodes sur les questions sociales avec une perspective queer et f\u00e9ministe et attendons la r\u00e9ponse pour le financement d'un grand projet de cr\u00e9ation sonore autour du th\u00e8me de l'anxi\u00e9t\u00e9.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Je viens de terminer le projet de visite guid\u00e9e f\u00e9ministe sur l'histoire des luttes \u00e0 Saint-Gilles, g\u00e9nial ! Je pr\u00e9pare actuellement un \u00e9v\u00e9nement sur la place Morichar le mercredi 26 avril intitul\u00e9 \"Place aux filles*\" qui vise \u00e0 (re)mettre en place des valeurs de solidarit\u00e9, de communaut\u00e9, de dialogue et d'inclusion \u00e0 travers diff\u00e9rents tournois de football amicaux pour les \u00e9coles primaires le matin et les associations l'apr\u00e8s-midi. Il y aura \u00e9galement un march\u00e9 des associations qui permettra \u00e0 chacun de d\u00e9couvrir les initiatives, collectifs et associations LGBTQIA+, EVRAS, sportives et f\u00e9ministes qui \u0153uvrent au quotidien pour une soci\u00e9t\u00e9 plus inclusive et solidaire.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Un autre grand projet est une exposition photo dans l'espace public sur le th\u00e8me de la monoparentalit\u00e9 que je monte en collaboration avec l'incroyable collectif de femmes photographes que nous partageons. L'intention est de mieux faire conna\u00eetre ces familles (en particulier les m\u00e8res c\u00e9libataires) \u00e0 travers des portraits, des podcasts et un catalogue contenant divers t\u00e9moignages et cartes blanches d'associations ainsi que des ressources utiles. Nous esp\u00e9rons interpeller les politiques sur cette question importante ! Vernissage le 30 mai et visites possibles dans diff\u00e9rents lieux de Saint-Gilles pendant tout le mois de juin.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Bref, vous voyez que je n'ai pas beaucoup de temps pour m'ennuyer !<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-gallery has-nested-images columns-default is-cropped wp-block-gallery-2 is-layout-flex wp-block-gallery-is-layout-flex\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"706\" data-id=\"46286\" src=\"https:\/\/ket.brussels\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/000019-1024x706.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-46286\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ket.brussels\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/000019-1024x706.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/ket.brussels\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/000019-300x207.jpg 300w, https:\/\/ket.brussels\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/000019-768x529.jpg 768w, https:\/\/ket.brussels\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/000019-18x12.jpg 18w, https:\/\/ket.brussels\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/000019.jpg 1346w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" data-id=\"46285\" src=\"https:\/\/ket.brussels\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/262357004_617950362956608_7200524026277062820_n-1024x683.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-46285\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ket.brussels\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/262357004_617950362956608_7200524026277062820_n-1024x683.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/ket.brussels\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/262357004_617950362956608_7200524026277062820_n-300x200.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/ket.brussels\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/262357004_617950362956608_7200524026277062820_n-768x512.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/ket.brussels\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/262357004_617950362956608_7200524026277062820_n-18x12.jpeg 18w, https:\/\/ket.brussels\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/262357004_617950362956608_7200524026277062820_n.jpeg 1260w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"802\" data-id=\"46287\" src=\"https:\/\/ket.brussels\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/A7I05871-2-1024x802.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-46287\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ket.brussels\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/A7I05871-2-1024x802.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/ket.brussels\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/A7I05871-2-300x235.jpg 300w, https:\/\/ket.brussels\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/A7I05871-2-768x602.jpg 768w, https:\/\/ket.brussels\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/A7I05871-2-1536x1204.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/ket.brussels\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/A7I05871-2-2048x1605.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/ket.brussels\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/A7I05871-2-15x12.jpg 15w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><br><strong>Que signifie pour vous le fait de faire partie de la communaut\u00e9 queer de Bruxelles ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Je me souviens encore de ma toute premi\u00e8re f\u00eate lesbienne \u00e0 Bruxelles, je devais avoir 15-16 ans et je d\u00e9couvrais ce nouveau monde gr\u00e2ce \u00e0 une amie qui avait fait son coming out avant moi. J'\u00e9tais intrigu\u00e9e et en m\u00eame temps je me demandais ce que je faisais l\u00e0. Dans les ann\u00e9es qui ont suivi, j'ai commenc\u00e9 \u00e0 sortir assez r\u00e9guli\u00e8rement dans des soir\u00e9es queer, o\u00f9 j'ai rencontr\u00e9 des amis, des amants, des coups d'un soir, des amants. Aujourd'hui, c'est une sc\u00e8ne tr\u00e8s vivante, avec une offre tr\u00e8s dense, vaste et visible. Ce n'est plus seulement quelques soir\u00e9es ici et l\u00e0 et la Pride comme moment cl\u00e9 de l'ann\u00e9e o\u00f9 tout le monde se retrouve. Si on le voulait, on pourrait sortir tous les soirs de la semaine et du week-end ! Et puis, avec l'arriv\u00e9e de Drag Race en Europe et surtout en Belgique, nous entrons dans une cat\u00e9gorie encore plus mainstream qu'auparavant. Nous sommes d'accord pour dire que cela ne r\u00e9sout pas tous les probl\u00e8mes qui existent encore et la discrimination \u00e0 laquelle les personnes LGBTQIA+ sont confront\u00e9es dans notre soci\u00e9t\u00e9, mais je pense que l'\u00e9volution et surtout la visibilit\u00e9 de nos luttes sont plut\u00f4t positives et je suis heureuse d'en faire partie \u00e0 ma petite \u00e9chelle.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Quelles sont vos influences homosexuelles ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Quand j'\u00e9tais plus jeune, j'ai commenc\u00e9 \u00e0 suivre beaucoup de youtubers et de stars queer sur tumblr, donc mon background est fortement anglophone et ce sont ces personnes que je suis toujours sur instagram. Je suis entour\u00e9e d'artistes, d'activistes et de non-activistes queer que j'admire \u00e9norm\u00e9ment et dont je suis le travail au quotidien. Ces personnes m'inspirent beaucoup. Sinon, je suis une fan inconditionnelle de Christine and the Queens !<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Quelles sont les initiatives bruxelloises que vous aimez ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ce qui est ind\u00e9niable, c'est que Bruxelles bouillonne depuis quelques ann\u00e9es et que les initiatives queer se multiplient. Les premi\u00e8res qui me viennent \u00e0 l'esprit sont le nouveau duo de DJ queer NotOkCupid, le Sassy Cabaret, le collectif Fatsabatts, le festival Pink Screens, les soir\u00e9es \"\u00e0 l'aise bien\", l'\u00e9quipe bruxelloise de waterpolo manneken fish, le bar mothers and daughters, et je pourrais en citer beaucoup d'autres.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Asma El Guezouli est la co-cr\u00e9atrice du podcast \"Baleine Sous Caillou\" mais pas seulement.<\/p>","protected":false},"author":9,"featured_media":46284,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[53,54,30],"tags":[],"series":[],"class_list":["post-46283","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-community","category-podcast","category-portrait"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v20.3 (Yoast SEO v27.7) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-premium-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Baleine Sous Caillou podcast by Asma El Guezouli -<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Asma El Guezouli is the co creator of \u201cBaleine Sous Caillou\u201d podcast but not just that. 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